ArenaNet:Skill feedback/Dervish/Dervish in the current PvE and GvG.
File:Dervish in the current PvE and GvG..jpg Dervish in the current PvE and GvG.
OrganisedOP Issue -- 10:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Issue
- Currently, dervish are one of the weakest class right in both PvE and GvG. This is a thread where people are discussing about dervish and the things they lack. I'll just quote some of the things people said but if you want to check out the thread, you can go here. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10338668
"Simply put, dervishes lack the utility that warriors have.
They have IAS's but they're not very accessible, although they do have good speed boosts. However mainly they don't have interupts or knockdowns on their primary profession. Whereas warriors have all of these, including 3 sec kd's using stonefists leaving the 2nd profession open to more useful things such as your classic shock/conjure/shadowstep/meteorshowere...
So yeah thats why dervishes get less use." -Fowlero
"Dervishes used to be used also. Most of them spammed Wounding Strike. But warriors had more utility and could pressure/spike better." - ac1inferno
"Dervishes aren't used because dervspike was nerfed and VoD doesn't exist anymore." -I Angra I
"and btw, warriors are the undisputed kings of melee. their very good DPS, combined with naturally good defense and excellent disruption places them heads and shoulders above dervishes and assassins. those two are only better than warriors in very specific situations. the warrior's endurance build allowed warriors to spam their energy based attacks, which WERE considered bad before because warriors could not run them due to their poor energy. with warrior's endurance pumping them energy constantly, they can now spam them for some pretty sickening damage. for example, power attack does the same damage as executioner's strike, except you can now use power attack every 3 seconds constantly, while you can't do that with executioner's strike. effectively, a WE warrior has the best of both words: spamable high-damage energy attacks like a dervish, while still having all the goodies of a warrior (3 KD, high damage bull's strike, free secondary, etc)." -moriz
I wrote this on another article but I think it should belong here instead.
Here's the thread where two people (a warrior) and a dervish tests out their highest DPS via Master of damage. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4380597#post4380597
If you take a look at post #7, you can see the screenshot that a warrior who used Warrior's endurance spamming skills did 6,055 damage in 30 seconds.
A dervish (post #27), who used Aura of Holy might, Asura scan, Ebon Standard/Urals Hammer/I am the Strongest, zealous vow+3 spammables instead of vow got only 3.5k damage in 30 seconds.
Considering how a warrior has the highest defence in-game and also 3 KD makes dervish much weaker. Even in the high-end PvE, Dervish aren't wanted and as for GvG, they aren't use at all. What exactly is dervish's role? They are out-damaged by warriors, out-defenced, and lack utility.
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- Suggestion
- Dervish really needs utility skills such as knockdowns and what not.A good start would be something similar to warrior's skill called "Wild blow." It crits and removes stance, which are extremely important when dealing with professions who uses stances.
Rangers and assassin uses Dervish as their secondary profession which makes them much more powerful than a dervish so I think some skills needs to become mysticism so they won't have access to it or at least make it less effective on them. Also, dervish can only keep IAS half the time and they are easily stripable. Since dervish's damage is small compared to warriors, either warrior's endurance needs to be fixed or make dervish's skill much more powerful.
